Freakonomics Radio

How Goes the Behavior-Change Revolution?

An all-star team of behavioral scientists discovers that humans are stubborn (and lazy, and sometimes dumber than dogs). We also hear about binge drinking, humblebragging, and regrets. Recorded live in Philadelphia with guests including Richard Thaler, Angela Duckworth, Katy Milkman, and Tom Gilovich.

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10 min readJun 21, 2019

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About two years ago on Freakonomics Radio, we interviewed Angela Duckworth and Katy Milkman, researchers at the University of Pennsylvania, about an audacious new project they called Behavior Change for Good. It gathered together a “dream team” of behavioral scientists with the goal of advancing the science of behavior change and helping more people make good decisions about personal finance, health, and education.

On this week’s episode of Freakonomics Radio, we caught up with Duckworth and Milkman on the status of their project and the latest research in their circles. To that end, we also heard from four members of Duckworth and Milkman’s team about their research on pettiness; humblebragging; whether dogs are smarter than people; why people have such a hard time choosing the right…

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Stephen J. Dubner/ Freakonomics Radio
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Stephen J. Dubner is co-author of the Freakonomics books and host of Freakonomics Radio.